I Added a 9-Year Authorized-User Tradeline 40 Days Before a Car Loan

A 40-day log of adding a nine-year-old authorized-user account before a $28,000 car loan: which credit reports showed it, why the dealer's FICO Auto Score sat on a 250 to 900 scale, and what the lender weighed that no score contains. A tradeline may help, and how much is not published.

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Key Takeaways

  • Can a tradeline help you get a car? It may help, and how much is not published. FICO says authorized-user accounts can affect a FICO Score and, in recent versions, count for less than accounts you own.
  • On this one file the account was on two of three bureau reports by Day 14 and still missing from the third on Day 39. The CFPB says creditors are not required to report, and Equifax says there is no set day when card companies do.
  • The dealer pulled a FICO Auto Score 8, an industry-specific score on a 250 to 900 scale. It cannot be compared with the base FICO Score 8, on a 300 to 850 scale, that the borrower had been watching.
  • FICO said in 2009 that its auto version of FICO 08 includes protection against authorized user account piggybacking. How that protection works is not published, and no point value is attached to the tradeline here, because none can be isolated.
  • The lender asked about income, debts, loan amount, term and down payment. Going from $3,000 down over 72 months to $5,000 down over 60 months moved the quote from 13.9 to 12.6 percent while the score on the screen stayed at 661.
  • On paid tradelines, the Federal Trade Commission's complaint says it has never determined that credit piggybacking is legal. Fannie Mae's exclusion of authorized-user accounts is a mortgage rule for manually underwritten loans, and I found no comparable published rule for auto lenders in the sources I read.

The Score on the Dealer's Monitor

On a Saturday in late September, the finance manager at a used-car dealership turned his monitor toward me and pointed at a three-digit number. I had checked a credit score most mornings for forty days, and I had never seen this one. The label beside it read FICO Auto Score 8, TransUnion. The number in my bank's app was a FICO Score 8 built on Experian data, so the model, the bureau and the scale were all different.

Forty days earlier my sister had added me as an authorized user on a credit card she opened in 2017. I was about to ask for a $28,000 car loan, and I had typed the question a lot of people type: can a tradeline help me get a car? A tradeline is an account as it appears on a credit report.

The documents I read get as far as this: it may help, and how much is not published anywhere. I kept a log of what I could observe: when the account reached each of my credit reports, which score the dealer pulled, and what the lender asked about that no score contains. It is one file. Results vary from one file and one lender to the next, and nothing in this one predicts yours.

A rooster holding a short measuring stick up against a taller one on a car dealer's desk

Day 0: One Thin File and a Nine-Year-Old Card

Day 0 was a Monday in mid-August. My own file was thin: one credit card in my name, opened fourteen months earlier, with a $1,000 limit and no late payments. That day my sister called her card issuer and added me to an account she opened in June 2017, a little over nine years before. It carries a $12,000 limit, and her statements usually close with a few hundred dollars. I pulled my reports from all three bureaus the same day as a baseline, and a card with my name on it arrived the following week.

FICO's consumer site, myFICO, answers the authorized-user question this way: "Authorized user accounts can appear on your credit report and impact your FICO® Score." The same answer adds a limit: "In recent versions of the score, authorized user accounts have less impact to your FICO Score than primary accounts." Fair Isaac's Form 10-K for fiscal 2010 describes FICO Score 8 as considering authorized user accounts "while limiting the possibility that such accounts are used to artificially inflate scores."

The published record stops there. FICO does not say how much less impact, which versions count as recent, or how the logic tells one account from another. On Day 0 all I knew was that the account could count.

1
Monday

Day 0

My sister adds me to a card she opened in June 2017. I pull all three reports as a baseline.

2
Friday

Day 11

Her statement closes.

3
Monday

Day 14

The account is on my Experian and TransUnion reports and not on Equifax.

4
Friday

Day 39

My third check, eleven days after the second on Day 28, finds the same two reports out of three.

5
Saturday

Day 40

The dealer reads a FICO Auto Score 8 from TransUnion. Three lenders pull my report.

6
Monday

Day 42

My credit union pulls a fourth time and offers the loan I take.

Days 1 to 39: Two Reports Out of Three

I had seen thirty days repeated online as the time a new account takes to show up. None of the issuer or bureau pages I read promises it. Equifax's explainer on card reporting says there is "no set day or time when a credit card company reports" to the three bureaus, and that creditors who do report "should report monthly, usually on the billing cycle date." The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau puts it flatly: "Creditors are not required to report information to the credit reporting companies." Experian adds that card issuers "can choose what information to report and how many bureaus to report it to."

My sister's statement closed on Day 11, and on Day 14 I pulled all three reports again. The account was on my Experian and TransUnion reports and not on Equifax. Day 28 and Day 39 gave the same result.

On the two reports that carried it, the entry showed her June 2017 open date, the $12,000 limit, a $480 balance, a payment history with no late marks, and a responsibility field reading authorized user.

I do not know why Equifax never showed it. myFICO states that a FICO Score "is calculated only from the information in your credit report." A score built on a report that lacks the account cannot reflect it. That step is my deduction from FICO's sentence, not a quote. Had the dealer's lender pulled Equifax, the new account would not have been in the file being scored.
Myth

"A new authorized-user account shows up on all three credit reports within thirty days."

Fact

Equifax says there is no set day or time when a credit card company reports, and the CFPB says creditors are not required to report at all.

Why It Matters

Which report a lender pulled mattered on this file: two of my three carried the account by Day 14, and the third still lacked it on Day 39.

Day 40: A Score on a 250 to 900 Scale

On Day 40 I asked the finance manager which score he was looking at and from which bureau, and he read it off the screen: FICO Auto Score 8, TransUnion, 661. Two days earlier my bank's app had shown a FICO Score 8 of 672 on Experian data.

Definition

FICO Auto Score

An industry-specific FICO Score tuned for auto lending. It ranges from 250 to 900, while base FICO Scores range from 300 to 850.

Reading 672 and then 661 as a drop would be a mistake, because the two numbers do not measure the same thing. myFICO's page on score versions explains that base scores such as FICO Score 8 predict the likelihood of not paying as agreed "on any credit obligation," while industry-specific scores are "fine-tuned based on industry-specific risk behaviors." The scales differ too: "The industry-specific versions range from 250-900 (compared to 300-850 for base FICO® Scores)." myFICO calls Auto Scores "the industry specific scores used in the majority of auto financing-related credit evaluations." One file scored four different ways in a year shows how far apart these numbers can sit.

Two Readings, Two Days Apart

ReadingBank appDealer screen
Day3840
ModelFICO Score 8FICO Auto Score 8
Bureau dataExperianTransUnion
Scale300 to 850250 to 900
Number shown672661
The thing I most wanted to know was how an Auto Score treats an authorized-user account, and on that FICO has published one sentence. Its March 2009 announcement of the auto and bankcard versions of the FICO 08 score says they provide protection against authorized user account "piggybacking." How that protection works is not published, and neither is a point value. myFICO's page on score versions does not mention authorized users, and FICO says it "does not output more information beyond the score, reason codes, and exclusion codes." I could see the account on the TransUnion report the score was built from, but not what the score did with it. With no published point value, any figure someone quotes you is a guess.

I have left my Day 0 base score out of this post. In those forty days my own card aged another month, and I paid its reported balance down from $310 to $40. myFICO says "it's not possible to measure the exact impact of a single factor" without looking at the entire report. Printed beside the Day 38 number, it would read as the tradeline's effect, and I cannot isolate that.

661 on a 250 to 900 scale and 672 on a 300 to 850 scale are two different measurements.

What to ask in the finance office

Ask which score and bureau the lender used, then ask what range that score runs on.

What the Lender Asked That No Score Contains

The score took a few seconds. The rest of the hour went to things no credit score contains: two pay stubs, my monthly rent, how long I had been at my job, how much I was putting down and how long I wanted to pay.

That matches the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's page on auto loan interest rates, which names "your credit score, your credit history, income, debts, and down payment" among the factors an auto lender considers when deciding what interest rate to offer. Its list also names the amount of the loan, the loan term, and the "down payment in relation to the value of the vehicle."
The down payment piece has a name, loan-to-value, which the bureau defines as "the amount of your loan divided by the vehicle's actual cash value." The car came to $33,000 with tax and fees, and the lender's screen valued it at $32,000. I asked first for $3,000 down over 72 months. That is a $30,000 loan, and 30,000 divided by 32,000 is 93.75 percent. The quote came back at a 13.9 percent annual percentage rate. Then I offered $5,000 down and cut the term to 60 months, which made it a $28,000 loan at 87.5 percent of the car's value, and the quote fell to 12.6 percent. Through both quotes the number on his screen stayed at 661.
Definition

loan-to-value

The amount of the loan divided by the vehicle’s actual cash value, usually written as a percentage.

Two quotes from the same lender with the same 661 on the screen
13.9%
$3,000 down, 72 months, 93.75 percent loan-to-value
VS
12.6%
$5,000 down, 60 months, 87.5 percent loan-to-value

On who decides what counts, myFICO says: "It is up to each lender to determine which credit score they will use and what other financial information they will consider in their credit review process."

Four Inquiries and the Shopping Window

One visit produced three hard inquiries on my TransUnion report, all dated Day 40, because the dealership sent my application to three lenders. On Day 42 I applied at my credit union, which added one more.

myFICO spells out the rate-shopping rule: "FICO® Scores group multiple hard inquiries that are made within a short time frame (14 to 45 days) into one inquiry." And: "For FICO® Scores calculated from older versions of the scoring formula, this shopping period is any 14-day span. For FICO® Scores calculated from the newest versions of the scoring formula, this shopping period is any 45-day span. Each lender chooses which version of the FICO scoring formula it wants the credit reporting agency to use to calculate your FICO® Scores."
myFICO does not say which version numbers get 14 days and which get 45, and I could not know which version the next lender would use, so I planned for the 14-day window. I was done in two days. The rate-shopping rule has the longer explanation.

The credit union asked the same income and down payment questions and offered 11.4 percent over 60 months on the same $28,000. I took it. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's page on auto loan rates says of lenders: "Keep in mind that they're not required to offer you the best rates."

If You Are Thinking of Paying for One

My account came from my sister, and I carry the card. Paying a stranger for the same line on your report is a different arrangement, and the Federal Trade Commission has described it. Announcing its March 2020 case against a company called BoostMyScore, the agency said a consumer in a piggybacking deal pays "to be listed on another person's well-maintained credit account, ostensibly receiving the benefit of the good account on their own credit even though they can't access the account." Its complaint states: "The FTC has never determined that credit piggybacking is legal." I quote the agency and add no verdict of my own. What the FTC has actually said about tradelines covers the record.
VantageScore's 4.0 User Guide, revised September 2022, has one line under the heading Authorized User. It says the impact of renting authorized user trades to move a score "is minimized."
Fannie Mae has a written rule on authorized-user accounts, and it covers mortgages. Its Selling Guide says that for manually underwritten loans, authorized-user tradelines "cannot be considered in the underwriting decision," with stated exceptions, while its automated system, Desktop Underwriter, takes them into consideration. In the sources I read I found no published rule of that kind for auto lenders, in either direction. Whether tradelines work for mortgages is its own subject.

What I Would Check Before Walking In

If I did this again, I would treat the tradeline as one more thing to verify before the visit. In order, I would:

  • Pull all three reports before applying and confirm the account is on each one, with the open date, limit and balance I expect.
  • Ask the cardholder what balance their statements close with.
  • Ask the lender which score and which bureau it uses.
  • Bring proof of income, and work out the loan amount against the car's value before sitting down.
  • Keep every loan application inside a few days.
The account can also count against you. myFICO warns that if the primary account holder "misses payments or has high utilization, it could negatively impact the authorized user's FICO® Score," and says that if the account becomes delinquent you can ask to be removed, and the account will come off your credit report. The questions to ask before becoming an authorized user come from a file where that happened.

For the longer run, myFICO says "it's also important to have credit accounts where you are the primary account holder." My fourteen-month-old card is the account that stays mine if my sister ever closes hers.

Before You Apply for the Car Loan

Pull all three bureau reports and confirm the authorized-user account is on each one
Check the open date, credit limit and reported balance on the entry against what the cardholder tells you
Ask the lender which score and which bureau it uses, and what range that score runs on
Bring proof of income and know your monthly debts before you sit down
Divide the loan amount by the value of the car, and ask how a different down payment or term would change the quote
Keep every auto loan application inside a few days
Keep an account open where you are the primary account holder

The dealer's lender happened to pull one of the two reports that carried the account. I still cannot say the account is why I was approved, or what it was worth in points. FICO does not publish what an Auto Score does with such an account beyond saying the model guards against piggybacking, and my file changed in three ways at once: the new account, another month of age on my own card, and a lower reported balance.

I could check whether the line was on the report the lender pulled and which score that lender used, and I could watch the quote move with the down payment and the term while the score sat still.

I signed the credit union's loan: $28,000 over 60 months at 11.4 percent, 2.5 percentage points under the dealer's first quote.

Frequently Asked Questions

1. Can a tradeline help me get a car loan?

It may help, and by how much is not published. FICO says authorized-user accounts can appear on your credit report and affect your FICO Score, and that in recent versions they have less impact than accounts you own. No point value is published, and the lender decides which score to use and what else to weigh, including income, debts, down payment and term.

2. What credit score do car dealers and auto lenders use?

It is up to each lender. myFICO says FICO Auto Scores are the industry-specific scores used in the majority of auto financing-related credit evaluations, and that industry-specific versions range from 250 to 900 compared with 300 to 850 for base FICO Scores. A lender may also use a different score altogether, so ask which score and which bureau it pulled.

3. How long does an authorized-user account take to show up on a credit report?

The issuer and bureau statements cited in this post do not promise a date. Equifax says there is no set day or time when a credit card company reports, and that creditors who report should do so monthly, usually on the billing cycle date. In this log the account was on two of three reports by Day 14 and still missing from the third on Day 39. Check all three reports before you apply.

4. Does a FICO Auto Score count authorized-user accounts?

FICO has published very little on it. Its 2009 announcement of the auto version of FICO 08 says the score includes protection against authorized user account piggybacking, without saying how that works. The myFICO page that describes Auto Scores does not mention authorized users, and FICO says it does not output more information beyond the score, reason codes and exclusion codes. You can confirm whether the account is on the report the lender pulled, but not what the score did with it.

5. How long is the rate-shopping window for auto loans?

myFICO says FICO Scores group multiple hard inquiries made within a short time frame, 14 to 45 days, into one inquiry. The shopping period is any 14-day span for older versions of the formula and any 45-day span for the newest versions, and each lender chooses the version. myFICO does not list which version numbers get which window, so the 14-day span is the safer one to plan around.

6. What does an auto lender look at besides my credit score?

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau lists your credit scores and history, your income and debts, the amount of the loan, the loan term, the down payment in relation to the value of the vehicle, and the type of vehicle. On this file, moving from $3,000 down over 72 months to $5,000 down over 60 months changed the quote from 13.9 percent to 12.6 percent while the score stayed the same.

7. Is it legal to pay for an authorized-user tradeline before a car loan?

The Federal Trade Commission's 2020 complaint against BoostMyScore says the agency has never determined that credit piggybacking is legal. Under the settlement the FTC announced with that case, the defendants would be prohibited from selling fake access to another consumer's credit as an authorized user. This post adds no verdict to the agency's statement, and the account in this log came from a family member who gave real access to the card.

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